The Left "Ya Gotta Love em"
I always liked Michael Kinsley, he was entertaining, and like most entertainers facts don't matter much to them entertainment is the key. Most entertainers have a script. Michael has written a piece about how liberals need to get along with each other. It is the remaining fallout and bad blood from the primaries of Clinton vs. Obama. You may recall Michael as the nerdy but clear spoken liberal with CNN's late 80's Crossfire. It was the format today used by Hannity and Combes and more formidably satirized by Ackroyd and Curtin, great journalist they may be, commenting on Abend and Offit on NY TV, on Saturday Night Live in the 70's. Remember Ackroyd's politically sentient opening, "Jane, you ignorant slut"? I always laughed at the politically imprudent line. I envision Kinsley in a political essay in his chair opposite of Pat Buchanon and defining why the mean Republicans are going to chew up the nice Democrats, "Pat your ignorant manwhore if Democrats don't get along it will be the only reason John McCain, the class elist gets elected President! It is a great article in Newsweek where Michael points out the "real" problems. The real problems for Democrats and the real problem. I must agree he does!
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1821662,00.html
In his Time magazine article in speaking of the Democratic Party Primaries he states,
" The one-on-one rivalry between Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama lasted only about three months from beginning to end. Their policy disagreements are negligible. For many Clinton supporters, the chance to elect an African-American President represents the culmination of a cause they have been fighting for all their lives. Yet almost half of Clinton supporters tell pollsters that they will not vote for Obama. And Clinton's big-money backers are deflecting money and energy away from their party's presumptive nominee."
Kinsley has it right. Their policy disagreements are negligible. So what's the problem? The problem is this. This was supposed to be Hillary's chance. Bob Dole had his chance. Al Gore had his chance. Hell, they gave John Kerry a chance and even Democrats knew he was only electable in Mass. And this upstate new Senator from Illinois, Hillary's home state, beats her out of her chance. Beats her out, outwitted the smartest woman in the world, the greatest political machine created, outsmarted Bill! Something must be wrong in America! He is new. He is inexperienced. He defeated the best politicos in America. But more than that he isn't Hillary. Fact is some of the smart folks in the Democratic party don't like Bill or Hillary either. But it reveals something far worse.
When it comes to policies, Iraq, Taxes, The Supreme Court and its appointees, The Environment, Defense, China, Korea, Fuel Prices, Drilling in Anwar, etc. etc. there is a minuscule difference between Obama and Clinton. So why the Clinton angst. Kinsley points out that the Clintonistas believe there was sexism in the race. Like there is no racism in the race when it comes to Obama? Democrats need to walk softly here. If the only reason you don't like Obama is because there is sexism in the press concerning Hillary, what has Obama to do with that? The second question arises then is what is the only reason Clintonites don't like Obama, Racism? No, no that is not it. Cannot be it. Democrats are never racists are they? They are the party who likes Black America. Aren't they?
Kinsley adds one reason the Hillaryites don't like Obama is that Obama is moving aggressively to the center. Oh, really! Was it not Hillary who got her seat on the Armed Services Committee, voicing reservations about abortion, Hillary expanding on her fervent religious ideals sounding more like John Wesley or Billy Graham or her strong support of the Iraq War before she was against it. Democrats are as hard to follow as a Muhammad Ali rope a dope-bob and weave. So why don't they like Barack?
The element to recognize is that a Democrat will go where no other has gone before as long as it gets them elected. Hillary will meet with Newt Gingrich, Obama will redefine his position on Iraq three times in one day while later they can redefine their position in another vague interview because the standard press rarely presses the Dem leaders on issues where they concur.
What is the problem Michael asks? You don't want that McCain to win do you. Because if you think the Republicans are going to play nice. If you think McCain or the Republican are good guys, think again. This is the same Michael Kinsley who wrote about John McCain,
"Even better, he delivers the fresh air without the cloying aroma of piety. Or, rather, he can be pious, but the piety is diluted and made bearable by the knowing wink. He makes jokes at his own expense. That's attractive in a politician, but sometimes it is nothing more than a party trick. McCain goes further: Like Bob Dole, he makes jokes -- mean jokes, in public -- about others. That takes more wit and more guts. McCain is a good kind of cynic: He shares his cynicism with the rest of the class. The cynicism makes the piety bearable, while the piety makes the cynicism acceptable.
Journalists love him, of course. His frankness flatters us, and he flatters us more directly as well. Visiting a big convention of journalists last fall, McCain joined a group that was gambling at the hotel casino until the wee hours. In his speech the next morning, he cleverly nailed his audience and himself by declaring that he was happy to be among "my base."
Kinsley reveals his unwavering and adulterated bias towards Republicans clearly in this statement.
"For the Democrats to find it easier than the Republicans to raise money is a recent development, and a somewhat inspiring one. Affluent people who give to the Republican Party are advancing their own class interests, whereas those who give to the Democrats generally aren't."
The rascally Republicans give money to their party only to advance their own class interests. While Democrats generally don't. LOL....OMG. Read this as anti-intellectualism at its best. William F. Buckley is screaming in his grave saying, " And America believes this is the pinnacle of Left Wing Intellectualism".
I do so miss Daniel Patrick Moynihan who said,
" Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."
"....advancing there own class interests..." it is the speak of those who will say that only Republicans label others while in fact this tag is reminiscent of those who create the envy of rich vs. poor and the haves vs. the have nots. Oh, I forgot those Republicans hate the poor, hate the unemployed and only like rich people. No, Michael, it is that they have different ideas than the Democrats. To say that people only give to the Republicans because there is a class interest in play is intellectually lazy, dishonest and frankly shows a hard bias of the intellectually dishonest. I forget this is not about truth but position. Frankly it is but entertainment once again.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1821662,00.html
In his Time magazine article in speaking of the Democratic Party Primaries he states,
" The one-on-one rivalry between Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama lasted only about three months from beginning to end. Their policy disagreements are negligible. For many Clinton supporters, the chance to elect an African-American President represents the culmination of a cause they have been fighting for all their lives. Yet almost half of Clinton supporters tell pollsters that they will not vote for Obama. And Clinton's big-money backers are deflecting money and energy away from their party's presumptive nominee."
Kinsley has it right. Their policy disagreements are negligible. So what's the problem? The problem is this. This was supposed to be Hillary's chance. Bob Dole had his chance. Al Gore had his chance. Hell, they gave John Kerry a chance and even Democrats knew he was only electable in Mass. And this upstate new Senator from Illinois, Hillary's home state, beats her out of her chance. Beats her out, outwitted the smartest woman in the world, the greatest political machine created, outsmarted Bill! Something must be wrong in America! He is new. He is inexperienced. He defeated the best politicos in America. But more than that he isn't Hillary. Fact is some of the smart folks in the Democratic party don't like Bill or Hillary either. But it reveals something far worse.
When it comes to policies, Iraq, Taxes, The Supreme Court and its appointees, The Environment, Defense, China, Korea, Fuel Prices, Drilling in Anwar, etc. etc. there is a minuscule difference between Obama and Clinton. So why the Clinton angst. Kinsley points out that the Clintonistas believe there was sexism in the race. Like there is no racism in the race when it comes to Obama? Democrats need to walk softly here. If the only reason you don't like Obama is because there is sexism in the press concerning Hillary, what has Obama to do with that? The second question arises then is what is the only reason Clintonites don't like Obama, Racism? No, no that is not it. Cannot be it. Democrats are never racists are they? They are the party who likes Black America. Aren't they?
Kinsley adds one reason the Hillaryites don't like Obama is that Obama is moving aggressively to the center. Oh, really! Was it not Hillary who got her seat on the Armed Services Committee, voicing reservations about abortion, Hillary expanding on her fervent religious ideals sounding more like John Wesley or Billy Graham or her strong support of the Iraq War before she was against it. Democrats are as hard to follow as a Muhammad Ali rope a dope-bob and weave. So why don't they like Barack?
The element to recognize is that a Democrat will go where no other has gone before as long as it gets them elected. Hillary will meet with Newt Gingrich, Obama will redefine his position on Iraq three times in one day while later they can redefine their position in another vague interview because the standard press rarely presses the Dem leaders on issues where they concur.
What is the problem Michael asks? You don't want that McCain to win do you. Because if you think the Republicans are going to play nice. If you think McCain or the Republican are good guys, think again. This is the same Michael Kinsley who wrote about John McCain,
"Even better, he delivers the fresh air without the cloying aroma of piety. Or, rather, he can be pious, but the piety is diluted and made bearable by the knowing wink. He makes jokes at his own expense. That's attractive in a politician, but sometimes it is nothing more than a party trick. McCain goes further: Like Bob Dole, he makes jokes -- mean jokes, in public -- about others. That takes more wit and more guts. McCain is a good kind of cynic: He shares his cynicism with the rest of the class. The cynicism makes the piety bearable, while the piety makes the cynicism acceptable.
Journalists love him, of course. His frankness flatters us, and he flatters us more directly as well. Visiting a big convention of journalists last fall, McCain joined a group that was gambling at the hotel casino until the wee hours. In his speech the next morning, he cleverly nailed his audience and himself by declaring that he was happy to be among "my base."
Kinsley reveals his unwavering and adulterated bias towards Republicans clearly in this statement.
"For the Democrats to find it easier than the Republicans to raise money is a recent development, and a somewhat inspiring one. Affluent people who give to the Republican Party are advancing their own class interests, whereas those who give to the Democrats generally aren't."
The rascally Republicans give money to their party only to advance their own class interests. While Democrats generally don't. LOL....OMG. Read this as anti-intellectualism at its best. William F. Buckley is screaming in his grave saying, " And America believes this is the pinnacle of Left Wing Intellectualism".
I do so miss Daniel Patrick Moynihan who said,
" Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."
"....advancing there own class interests..." it is the speak of those who will say that only Republicans label others while in fact this tag is reminiscent of those who create the envy of rich vs. poor and the haves vs. the have nots. Oh, I forgot those Republicans hate the poor, hate the unemployed and only like rich people. No, Michael, it is that they have different ideas than the Democrats. To say that people only give to the Republicans because there is a class interest in play is intellectually lazy, dishonest and frankly shows a hard bias of the intellectually dishonest. I forget this is not about truth but position. Frankly it is but entertainment once again.
But Michael says it best himself,
..."So they are taking their revenge(speaking about the Hillary supporters) on people without health care, women who need abortions, and others who they (if they supported Hillary) must think will be harmed by a Republican victory in the fall. That'll show 'em."
Harmed by a Republican victory. People who do not have health care or need abortions seem to be the criteria for this election. What we need from the Demos if Obama is elected is more abortions and a plan to put the government into the health care business.
Well, Mr. Kinsley again you are entertaining and in between the lines enlightening. What is the truth her is the rough and reality of the hard feelings between these groups, Feminists vs Black America. A large group of folks in the Democratic party are not thrilled that Obama is the candidate. And as you so aptly put it this is not a difference between Hillary and Barack with the exception of gender and race. So who are the racists in this one? What is the discovery that smells the worst. It is not the call to pure pragmatism and get your guy elected but the dirty secret you are tying to sweep under the floor. Some Democrats don't like the guy because he is black.
Difference is Michael, I don't like the guy because he just like Hillary, a unprincipled and politically expedient socialist. Here is my prophecy. If Obama does not win. You are going to spout that the only reason is that America is racist and that it is not about ideas. That Republicans are racist. You will be entertaining but you will not be accurate or truthful.
..."So they are taking their revenge(speaking about the Hillary supporters) on people without health care, women who need abortions, and others who they (if they supported Hillary) must think will be harmed by a Republican victory in the fall. That'll show 'em."
Harmed by a Republican victory. People who do not have health care or need abortions seem to be the criteria for this election. What we need from the Demos if Obama is elected is more abortions and a plan to put the government into the health care business.
Well, Mr. Kinsley again you are entertaining and in between the lines enlightening. What is the truth her is the rough and reality of the hard feelings between these groups, Feminists vs Black America. A large group of folks in the Democratic party are not thrilled that Obama is the candidate. And as you so aptly put it this is not a difference between Hillary and Barack with the exception of gender and race. So who are the racists in this one? What is the discovery that smells the worst. It is not the call to pure pragmatism and get your guy elected but the dirty secret you are tying to sweep under the floor. Some Democrats don't like the guy because he is black.
Difference is Michael, I don't like the guy because he just like Hillary, a unprincipled and politically expedient socialist. Here is my prophecy. If Obama does not win. You are going to spout that the only reason is that America is racist and that it is not about ideas. That Republicans are racist. You will be entertaining but you will not be accurate or truthful.
MW
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